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Turn the first cross the other way

Laces undone twice a walk, bow crooked down the shoe? Three conversations found the cause: a granny knot. Reverse the first cross and it holds.

Built from people whose laces came undone twice a walk — thirty conversations, 408 accounts, 2011 to 2026 — and from the three conversations that named the granny knot, the two that said to pull the first cross tight, and the five exchanges that argued about a fast knot the corrections say forms the same knot in the end. Knot mechanics checked for this page on 2026-09-04.

Your laces come undone twice a walk. You retie them tighter, and they come undone again. Look at the bow: if it lies along the shoe, toe to ankle, instead of straight across it, two accounts in these conversations — thirty of them, 408 accounts in all — say they only found out as adults what they had been doing since they were five.

Tying a granny knot. Three separate conversations name it: the first cross and the bow’s own knot both turn the same way, and two same-way half-knots roll and slip as the shoe flexes. The fix costs nothing. Reverse the first cross — left over right instead of right over left — and tie the bow exactly as you always have. The bow sits straight, and it holds. Two conversations add the second cause: slack under the bow, because the laces underneath were never pulled tight.

Turn the first cross the other way, pull it tight, then tie the bow you have always tied. This page checked the mechanics and they hold: opposite-handed half-knots lock each other the way a square knot does, and the crooked bow is the sign of the granny. Two accounts found out in adulthood; one prevalence note says a good share of people tie it wrong.

The fast one-motion knot that six conversations mention is a different question, and the people here argue it three to five: worth minutes a year, or never worth the weeks to learn. Three corrections settle what can be settled — it is older than its name, it forms the same knot as the ordinary bow, and nobody notices. This page’s own line: fix the granny first; the fast knot is a hobby.

Two readers this page is not for. If the shoe is the wrong size or width, two cautions say a lacing trick is only a plaster over heel slip or bruised toes — a shop with a proper measure does, and the accounts have three lacing tricks for the rest. And if you are on a trail or a pitch, one caution rated high says a loose shoe is the dangerous thing, however quick the knot. The rope-knot argument fused into these conversations — bowlines, climbing, rescue — is another subject, and is not here.

The far side, as this page pictures it, is a bow that lies flat across the shoe, a walk with no stopping, and a habit from age five quietly corrected in adulthood.

Common questions

My laces come undone all the time. What am I doing wrong?

Tying a granny knot, and the people here say the tell is the bow. Three separate conversations — the widest agreement on this page — say laces that keep coming undone are usually two identical half-knots stacked on each other: you cross the laces one way to make the starting knot, then the bow’s own knot goes the same way, and the result is a knot that twists and slips. The fix is to reverse the direction of one of them — the starting cross is the easy one — so the two halves go opposite ways and lock, the way a square knot does. Two conversations give the diagnostic, and a caution says it plainly: if your finished bow sits at an awkward diagonal, you are tying the granny; reverse the first cross and the bow straightens. This page checked the mechanics and they hold: same-handed half-knots loosen under movement, opposite-handed ones do not, and the bow’s direction is exactly what shows which you have tied. Two accounts in the prevalence notes say they did not find out until well into adult life, and one says a good share of people tie it wrong. Two more conversations name the second cause: the bow comes loose because the laces underneath were never pulled tight before you tied it, and the slack works its way up. Pull the first cross firm, then the bow. And one habit the accounts warn against for a different reason: one caution says slipping shoes on and off without untying wears the inside of the heel — untie them.

Why does the direction of the cross matter?

Because a knot is two half-knots, and whether they lock or slide depends on whether they mirror each other. The first cross — one lace over the other and under — is a half-knot. The bow is a second half-knot tied with loops. If you make both in the same direction, the two turns spiral the same way and the knot can roll and loosen as the shoe flexes; tied in opposite directions, each half holds the other, and the finished bow lies flat and straight. That is the difference between a granny knot and a square knot, which three conversations name and one caution describes as the diagonal bow; this page checked it against standard knot mechanics and it is correct. You do not have to change the bow you have tied all your life — the loop, the wrap, the pull-through — only the first cross under it, so that the two halves disagree. Two accounts say the switch feels confusing at first; two conversations say that a knot which feels off or sits at an odd angle is fixed by reversing the first cross. If you cannot get the first cross to reverse — hands have their habits — the other lever is the bow: make the wrap go round the loop the opposite way. Either change alone fixes it; both together put you back where you started.

What about the one-motion fast knot everyone mentions?

Six separate conversations mention a knot that ties the bow in a single motion, made famous by a lacing website, and the people here argue about it in five exchanges, so here are both sides and the decider. The method itself: both loops are formed at once and passed through each other in one movement, and once learned it is quicker than the loop-wrap-pull that children are taught. In the widest exchange, three accounts to five, the three say it saves minutes a year and is worth it for anyone who likes efficiency, the five say the learning time means you never break even, or not for decades; a second, two to three, and a third, one to three, say the same — and the accounts’ own decider is how often you tie your shoes and how long it takes you to learn a new motion. Three corrections in these conversations cut it down to size: it is not new — two accounts say it existed under other names before the website — and it forms exactly the same finished knot as the standard bow, so it is a faster way to the same place, not a better knot; and one correction says that the promised admiration never comes, because how you tie your shoes goes unnoticed. One exchange, one account each way, is whether it is more or less secure: one says it is less, because there is no spare finger to pin the half-knot while you tighten, another that theirs never comes undone. Caveats, one each: it takes weeks to unlearn the old motion, some people never manage it and one calls it a scam for that reason, it still needs the starting cross underneath, it may not suit anyone who likes laces very tight, and round laces slip out of it and want a different, more secure knot. One contraindication says it is not for left-handed people who use a particular looping method, because the instructions do not match their hands — and one account notes that the whole thing is one motion once learned and a step-by-step for beginners until then. This page’s own position, marked as its own: fix the granny knot first, because that is what is making the shoe come undone; the fast knot is a hobby, and a fine one.

Could it be the shoe rather than the knot?

Often, and the accounts are honest about the limits of lacing. Two cautions say lacing tricks are a plaster on a shoe that is the wrong size or width, and one account says a good share of heel slip and bruised toenails are sizing errors, not knot errors, and another that numb feet on a run can be a lacing problem — a specialist running shop with a proper measure sorts more of those than any lace does, with one exchange warning that some shops push expensive insoles you do not need. Within lacing, the accounts have three tricks, one account each, which this page passes on as theirs: the heel lock, or lace lock, — the accounts name it and did not describe it, so the description here is this page’s own: the top pair of eyelets makes a loop on each side and the lace passes across through the loops, holding the heel down — one runner says it reduced their marathon numbness and heel slip, one account says it gave them heel blisters within a mile, and the exchange resolves on fit and on whether it was tied right; skipping an eyelet over a high instep or a wide forefoot — named by the accounts, described here as this page’s own; and lacing tight at the ankle rather than along the whole foot — this page’s own description, since the accounts referred to the technique by number and never spelled it out. One caution says some patterns need a spare pair of eyelets that many shoes do not have, and another says not to judge a lacing pattern on one try — it may have been too tight, too loose, or the wrong shoe. Three conversations add a small trick for runners without pockets: tie the house key into the bow or lace it through the eyelets.

Is any of this actually worth the bother?

The granny fix is — three conversations describe it, and one exchange, two accounts to one, puts it ahead of every other cause; the rest is preference. Three conversations say a shoe that stays tied is the whole point, and a caution rated high says why it matters: a loose shoe is dangerous on a trail or a pitch, and a fast knot is only a gain if it ends up as tight as the activity needs. One account puts the value of the fast knot at a handful of seconds a time that add up to hours over a year; one account on the other side says the time you spend putting a shoe on was never mostly the knot. A prevalence note says three accounts leave their shoes tied all day or wear slip-ons to avoid the question altogether, and one caution answers that pulling a tied shoe on and off wears the heel out. This page’s own line, marked as its own: the one-minute change to the first cross fixes a problem you have had since you were five and costs nothing to learn; everything after that is for people who enjoy knots. A large strand of these conversations is about rope — which knot to climb on, which to trust in a rescue — and is a different subject, not carried here.

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